tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506995090336963455.post1772851124576745306..comments2023-03-21T05:49:21.694-04:00Comments on Seeking Avalon: Unholy Possum ChickenAvalon's Willowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07539301720154191607noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506995090336963455.post-52622538757416758582009-08-19T07:23:19.029-04:002009-08-19T07:23:19.029-04:00Your analysis makes sense and it's completely ...Your analysis makes sense <em>and</em> it's completely horrible, so with the way this year is going, it's probably exactly right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506995090336963455.post-35721752649678142672009-08-17T23:34:48.054-04:002009-08-17T23:34:48.054-04:00"Well it does seem more and more as if Night ..."Well it does seem more and more as if Night didn't actually watch Avatar so much as possibly be in the room"<br /><br />Honestly though. <br /><br />IF wasn't his only wtf-inducing interview, he said similar things in his session with Empire. <br /><br />http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22380<br /><br />You definitely have a point about Zuko being “starved for love; one of the main things M. Night emphasizes is the “Shakespearean overtones…There’s lots of family angst, and fathers denying sons in different storylines." (I assume he means Hakoda too, which worries me, Two totally different father figures, with totally different reasoning and morals. Between this statement and the grounded!Sokka element, weary is my middle name.<br /><br />Beyond that, it certainly feels like he’s injecting his own philosophy into the film :I<br /><br />Then there’s that overwhelming sense to face palm when he says the movie will “speak to a younger audience.” Mmm. Racefail for the young’uns. <br /><br />(Actually, Racebending has a collective link of all his fail-statements http://community.livejournal.com/racebending/2872.html )Jhenne Tyler B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05019261969154480797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506995090336963455.post-16384732969709933782009-08-17T09:43:02.926-04:002009-08-17T09:43:02.926-04:00Even as someone who hasn't watched the series ...Even as someone who hasn't watched the series (I'm going to get the DVDs), I can tell that this guy is full of it from that first quote about his search for the Grail of epic-fantasy-story-to-tell, and how Avatar meets that need. And that's just because I'm always deeply suspicious when I hear a director say any variant of, 'Well, there's this source material, and it's wonderful in all the following ways, and I just want to inject a little of my own sensibility into it.' <br /><br />It invariably means 'Someone offered me a pile of money to make even more money out of this already lucrative franchise, but because I'm such a respected <i>auteur</i>, I have to waffle about Ideas and Philosophy in interviews, and shove a lot of stuff I made up into the movie, so that nobody thinks I'm selling out by doing a popular culture adaptation. The actual source material? Yeah, I read it real quick while I was on a plane... seems okay.'<br /><br />Sigh.Angeline B. Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09193387146888000794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506995090336963455.post-70189388833216581852009-08-17T02:07:56.974-04:002009-08-17T02:07:56.974-04:00Jhenne Tyler B:
Well it does seem more and more a...<strong>Jhenne Tyler B:</strong><br /><br />Well it does seem more and more as if Night didn't <em>actually watch Avatar</em> so much as possibly be in the room, maybe humoring his daughter, while <em>she</em> watched Katara be kickass.<br /><br />I didn't watch most of Avatar on channel because they kept moving it around so much. I clung to watching online like I was Kudzu and it was, well, anything holding still.<br /><br />It's amazing to me that the show had such crap show times and was still Amazingly Popular and held the attention of so many kids (who have so many other things vying for their time).Avalon's Willowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07539301720154191607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506995090336963455.post-42242555153731387042009-08-17T02:01:25.937-04:002009-08-17T02:01:25.937-04:00"Night's female characters are never kick..."Night's female characters are never kick-ass. They're enduring with quirk sprinkles."<br /><br />THIS.<br /><br />That interveiw, as a collective, made my head explode. Plus, the fart joke thing confused the hell out of me. The only fart jokes I remember in context of Avatar were in the Nick Magazine or the Nicktoon channel's little commercial bumps. *Never* in the show :IJhenne Tyler B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05019261969154480797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506995090336963455.post-72873418288281009092009-08-16T23:42:05.232-04:002009-08-16T23:42:05.232-04:00Dragovianknight:
Thing is, Night's work shows...<strong>Dragovianknight</strong>:<br /><br />Thing is, Night's work shows he has an affiliation, as it were, with 'Chosen Ones'. In particular, <em>white</em> Chosen Ones.<br /><br />So it's very, very, possible that he's seeing what he <em>wants</em> to see.<br /><br />In another post, <strong>Ami Angelwings</strong> discusses his vindictiveness when it came to critics of Lady in the Water. While I don't think he can afford to alienate fans on purpose and not give Paramount a good return for their investment, I think at some point someone in the Studio is going to suggest the movie be marketed as 'inspired by Avatar: TLAB'/<br /><br />Of course, saying it's M.Night's Last Airbender might be enough of a title change already.<br /><br />Peter Jackson may be a racist asshat, but with LOTR he knew damn full well that it was not <em>his</em> vision, past choosing New Zealand that was going up on film, but Tolkien's. And choosing artist who were widely accepted as having represented Tolkein's vision was platinum piss smart.<br /><br />M. Night has repeatedly mentioned his vision, his imprint, his style, making his mark on a an epic saga.<br /><br />So pretty much I think we're going to be watching <em>his</em> fanfiction. And Night is pretty damn basic.<br /><br />Ok, if I do the whole actual prophecy thing?<br /><br /> -- It's going to be dark, with a focus on almost unattainable love (having it nearly slip out of grasp be a mere wisp characters are straining for). Those passive to love who redeem themselves will be rewarded. Those who pervert it will be punished. The bad guys will be drunk on their own power and the action of their own power and feel anything and everything will be worth attaining their goal. Though if the actors are good, Azula and Ozai will not come off too one dimensionally despite the script.<br /><br />Given his emphasis on Patel as a 'man-child', Zuko will be adrift in the sense of his own powerlessness (like ALL Night's adult male protaganists) probably with some Han Solo cynicism thrown in. Iroh will have his sprinkles be grief. With Zuko it will be made blatantly clear that Zuko's only like this because he lost his way after becoming disillusioned and became starved for love in his fog of disappointed confusion and internal man pain - that tends to lead Night's male characters to wander away from their support (usually emotionally).<br /><br />Iroh will have a quiet desperation he cannot share with Zuko (because he is a father figure and must protect).<br /><br />Katara will be pretty and emotionally strong but not a warrior, not describable as kick-ass, because Night's female characters are never kick-ass. They're <em>enduring</em> with quirk sprinkles.<br /><br />I can't predict the 'twist' in how he'll move the characters towards the series ending. But I bet it'll have something to do with accepting the inevitability of their inner heroism/heroic specialness. This will undoubtedly be most obvious with Aang.<br /><br />And then everyone will fight like demons in the name of love and win out.<br /><br />In between will be fish-cold longing looks that are supposed to hint at romance (which is SOUL, vs mere attraction - which is lust and thus 'evil').<br /><br />And that is pretty much the plot of all his movies, with some mystery and running around thrown in.<br /><br />Oh yeah, Azula's "Mother hated me" will definitely get played up, possibly as extreme jealousy against Zuko, vs Azula just being a power hungry female copy of her dad.Avalon's Willowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07539301720154191607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506995090336963455.post-52208460444056773612009-08-16T23:10:49.403-04:002009-08-16T23:10:49.403-04:00Softestbullet:
I'm not sure I'd like bein...<strong>Softestbullet:</strong><br /><br />I'm not sure I'd like being <em>that kind of Prophet</em> or Oracle. But the costumes and casting and the things he's said in interviews at the very least, to me, hint at that possibility.Avalon's Willowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07539301720154191607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506995090336963455.post-33842173089810170762009-08-16T22:05:19.096-04:002009-08-16T22:05:19.096-04:00Oh god. That's exactly how it's going to b...Oh god. That's exactly how it's going to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506995090336963455.post-67671473139135526472009-08-16T20:56:04.039-04:002009-08-16T20:56:04.039-04:00Shorter Shyamalan: "When I saw the cartoon I ...Shorter Shyamalan: "When I saw the cartoon I thought it was so well thought out in term of mythology, so then I got rid of all that and just did whatever the hell I wanted."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506995090336963455.post-65915713581212155842009-08-16T14:43:54.050-04:002009-08-16T14:43:54.050-04:00*headdesk*
All of M Night's interviews re: Ai...*headdesk*<br /><br />All of M Night's interviews re: Airbender are just so filled with AUGH and WTFery (like the one where he talked about how he got actors with a "spectrum of colors" in their acting palette) and.... >.<:;;<br /><br />It rly seems like he's never watched Avatar before he signed onto this film, he had his own idea of what it was, then he watched it and molded it to fit what he originally wanted to do neways... or maybe I'm just being too generous to try to explain the total WTFness of everything he's been saying... >.<;;;Ami Angelwingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07263018434610100226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4506995090336963455.post-76160145884638245522009-08-16T11:29:52.223-04:002009-08-16T11:29:52.223-04:00The only kung fu guy he can namecheck is Bruce Lee...The only kung fu guy he can namecheck is Bruce Lee? now, I know fuck all about kung fu movies but i am assuming there is more than one kung fu star. that combined with what you said about the martial arts stuff makes me think he doesn't know jack about kung fu.<br /><br />Re the LOTR and HP comparisons - it's pretty indicative of the sad state of Hollywood films that he couldn't think of any non eurocentric fantasy trilogies to compare Avatar too. Which is another reason why it would have been so good to cast this film as Asian.Sarangahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03545162612237984546noreply@blogger.com