Thursday, May 14, 2009

Gonna Punch Honkey IN THE FACE

This was going to be just a post where I asked a question of those people who've read the LMB books that have The Lakewalkers.

Because this interlude on the author's myhell page makes me go WTF.

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pronetolaughter: That might be true. But in this case, the Lakewalkers also just happened to have "copper" skin, "tents", canoes, a tradition of long braided hair even for men, use of porcupine quills (maybe even decorating moccasins, IIRC), and were also seasonal nomads, hunters (specializing in bows and feathered arrows), and had nicer furs and better herb medicine than farmers. Plus, they were arguing with farmers over who would live on what land. Seems like a pretty closely inspired version to me.

LMB: Saying that the Lakewalkers are arguably reminiscent of Native Americans seems to me the precise term; they're meant to be arguable. But I was also thinking of Orthodox Judaism, certain Indian (as in, subcontinent of) castes, and other generations- or centuries-long self-defending cultural constructs, and the social mechanisms for maintaining in-group and out-group boundaries over very long periods of time. (Arcane food rules loom interestingly large.)

bests, L.
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And then people pissed Willow off
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LISTEN, WHO THE FUCK ever Foxtrot Tango is, and any other fucker who agrees with them over on the Tor thread. They need to check themselves. I am sick and tired - no. I an enraged at honkeyshines (whether by white folk or white identified PoC) that use the word LYNCH to describe a fucking DISAGREEMENT, a debate via WORDS, especially on the INTERNET which is far removed from one on one physical confrontation and DANGER.

The minute someone uses the word LYNCH online, I know they don't know what the fuck they're talking about - One. And they're trying to be inflammatory because they can't counter argument - Two. And it's derailing bullshit - Three. That shows they're seriously lacking in the departments of compassion, empathy and HUMANITY.

White people go on and fucking on, (and yes, I'm so angry I can't even find words to use other than fuck) about how the words RACIST and RACISM are not words, according to them, to be tossed casually around - as if any (majority) instance where the words are used ARE FUCKING CASUAL.

But THEN THEY GO AND USE THE WORD LYNCH like it means fisty-cuffs between five year olds in a school yard.

THAT IS SOME OF THE MOST RACIST AND MINIMIZING OF TRAUMA BULLSHIT I HAVE EVER HEARD AND I AM OVER BEING EVEN REMOTELY POLITE TO PEOPLE WHO DO THIS.

In an internet disagreement, even about race, NO ONE is going to drag you from your home, while your family watches in HORROR, with GUNS in their faces, as you're PULLED THROUGH THE STREET AND TAKEN AWAY, to where men will STRING YOU UP VIA ROPE AND NOOSE, and drink beer and TAUNT YOU, before HANGING YOU and WATCHING YOUR KICKING FEET AND SLOW STRANGULATION OR BROKEN NECK.

AND THEN...

...take pictures of your broken dead body, like you were a prize fucking catch of the day from the sea, BURN YOUR BODY WHERE IT HANGS meaning that your family can't positively identify it, while also quite casually, BBQ-ing and picknicking! AND THEN LEAVING YOUR BODY THERE TO ROT AND FALL DOWN, because your family either doesn't know where it is, or isn't allowed to cut it down.

WHILE THE STRONGEST SANCTION THESE LYNCHERS face is a ticket for LITTERING!!!!!!!

YOU RACIST MOFUCKERS! You don't know shit and every time you open your fucking mouths, you prove how callous and INHUMAN you fucking are.

I SPIT ON YOU.

13 comments:

  1. La-vie-noire:Honkey had the nerve to claim inappropriate word usage and then ask me to apologise.

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  2. Any chance we can meet in the middle like civilized folks? Not after that comment, dude!

    And the congregation said: Wow.

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  3. Also, there was the part where lynching perpetrators would often cut off the fingers, toes, and sometimes even genitals of their victims and hand them out as souvenirs.

    Completely the same thing as having someone yell at you on a website. Definitely.

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  4. Re: inappropriate word usage

    That right there is a special sort of ignorance and presumption.

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  5. Kiala:Apparently I'm meant to give slack for someone being IGNORANT of the weight of the word lynch. When they live in this country; Where Barak Obama campaigned for two (3?) years; And was just inaugurated three months ago.

    This country where a cop shot an unarmed and cuffed man in the back on JANUARY 1st 2009.

    Where a jury found WHITE COPS not guilty of murdering a black, UNARMED MAN in NYC.

    C/p from the Tubab:
    Frankly, Avalon, I don't really want to know you either. But I was willing to try and make peace. I was hoping there might be room for actual, honest discussion. I took offense at the insults and the spitting. Especially the spitting. That's one of my own "oh, that's just not acceptable" triggers.

    But you've let me know where you stand. Thank you, and I'll get out of your way. I am sorry to have offended you so profoundly. It was an accident. I chose poorly because I simply did not know any better. I had not been educated about the full implications of using that word. Now I know better. Thank you for that, even if I found the mechanism of education disagreeable.

    Take care.
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    Incidentally, PNH deleted my comment response, despite Foxtrot Tango's AMAZING AND RACIST IGNORANCE. And is telling people to 'Simma Down Now'.

    If I didn't think he was a fucker before. I do now. Him AND his badword, cussword, wife.

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  6. Tell it. How you one gets to be grown and yet ignorant of basic history _and_ current events is beyond me. It would be pitiable if it weren't so vexingly vile.

    "actual honest discussion"Passive agressive defensive stance. Lynching is acceptable, spitting is not. And don't you dare whistle.

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  7. Yes, it's so very important that you cool down in response to the tired "OMG you're lynching ME!!" response when white people are accused of racist practices--and it's much more important to tell you to cool down rather than point out how racistly minimalizing that usage of the terms of lynching is. No, that's a level playing field there and any feeling you have in your leg joints that you're walking on an incline is purely imaginary.

    PNH is full of it.

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  8. I was hoping there might be room for actual, honest discussion.Well, there was honesty. Just not the kind this person apparently wanted...

    Again: Wow.

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  9. Holy shit.

    That... no. Fuck no.

    I just got linked here with just "lynch is not acceptable" and I thought it would be, like, a PERSON, or something. (I know people whose surname is Lynch, it's my other association for the word, you know?)

    What the fuck. I can't even comprehend this shit.

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  10. delurk
    I'm just starting to read about Race Fail and its implications for my favourite kind of fiction, and massive contact shame forces me to apologize on behalf of that asshole.
    I'm not an American, a native English speaker or particularly enlightened, and I'd know better than that, so WTF is that person thinking? How is that kind of clueless possible? Rhetorical questions. Brain hurts. Apologize again for cluttering your blog. Thank you for your posts.
    delurk/

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  11. *sigh*

    Interesting how pnh raises his colors high.

    Tor has got to stop letting him speak for them. And how much must it suck to be one of us working with them? I hope Bradford, Buckell, and others aren't being put into the filthy position of speaking for me, you, or anyone else that's been vexed by them and declared as much.

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  12. SkywardProdigal:

    I don't know where I'm getting my faith from, but I strongly believe that Buckell has too much going on in his life to put up with that kind of BS specifically.

    Still, them treating PoC as a Monolith? Oh, that'd be like treating Africa like it was a country and not a continent. Oops, oh wait. That has been done.

    Meanwhile:270. Torie VIEW ALL BY · Monday May 18, 2009 10:40am EDT Bookmark I'm re-opening this thread, but please be respectful of one another. This is a serious conversation worthy of serious discussion: keep that in mind with your tone and your language.

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    Yes, 'Torie' did just make the tone argument.

    And no, I'm not gonna apologise for cussing out the ignorant arse who used lynch to describe a disagreement.

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